Episode 53

Reply All And Mike Pesca And Smith College And Race And Race And Race

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March 1st, 2021

55 mins 31 secs

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About this Episode

The liberal landscape is littered with race-related meltdowns. After a correction and an update to last week's Reply All episode, Katie and Jesse discuss Mike Pesca's suspension from Slate and a long, infuriating article in the New York Times about false accusations at Smith College.

Reply All’s “The Confetti Cannon” episode:
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/dvh64g

The other side of the argument that Reply All got more political:
https://www.reddit.com/r/replyallpodcast/comments/ju3ly4/hot_take_reply_all_is_not_getting_more_political/gca58cv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Fresh Air on the nature of the protest:
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/25/971319812/reporters-video-from-inside-senate-on-jan-6-shows-a-crowd-prepared-for-violence

NY Times on Deadspin’s implosion:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/business/media/deadspin-was-a-good-website.html

Defector’s story on Mike Pesca:
https://defector.com/mike-pesca-slate-suspended/

NY Times on Pesca:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/business/media/slate-mike-pesca-suspended.html

“Eschew the Taboo: The pernicious effects of banning words” by Christopher Hitchens:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2006/12/hatred-will-always-outpace-linguistic-correctness.html

Ta-Nehisi Coates on use/mention:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/to-conversate/66929/

John McWhorter on use/mention:
https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/the-n-word-as-slur-vs-the-n-word

Margaret Sullivan with a confusing column:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/mike-pesca-donald-mcneil-n-word-media/2021/02/24/fe89d010-76a1-11eb-8115-9ad5e9c02117_story.html?itid=ap_margaretsullivan

Stefan Fatsis on this debate in Slate alllllll the way back in 2020:
https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/scrabble-offensive-words-ban-player-reaction.html

The episode of The Gist where Pesca mentions nonbinary pronouns:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/acosta-out-emily-bazelon-charged-kamala-harris-gun-laws.html

Michael Powell’s crazy story about Smith College:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/us/smith-college-race.html

The ACLU ACLU-ing, hard:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/race-and-criminal-justice/smith-college-overhauls-policing-practices-after-black

Cathy Young on the "Napping Whilte Black" story at Yale, which was significantly more complicated:
https://thebulwark.com/standing-up-to-the-moral-outrage-industry/

Jodi Shaw's latter, as published by Bari Weiss:
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/whistleblower-at-smith-college-resigns

Katie on disappearing lesbians:
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-lesbians-gone-0a7

Glenn Greenwald on his experience "trending as a transphobe and biphobe":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXXJoOsdoNE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=GlennGreenwald