Episode 74

The DID Influencers Of TikTok And The Decline Of Formerly-Science-Based Medicine

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July 26th, 2021

51 mins 34 secs

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About this Episode

The hosts issue a major boob-related correction, talk about TikTok influencers who (appear to) have dissociative identity disorder, and discuss the recent meltdown of a site that (claims that it) is "science-based." Plus: Some other, often-cringeworthy recent skepticism/atheism history, including Elevatorgate (tm).

Maria Taylor out: https://www.si.com/media/2021/07/21/maria-taylor-espn-split-nbc-likely-next

Scott Lilienfeld and Hal Arkowitz, a bit skeptical of Dissociative Identity Disorder in Scientific American: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-people-have-multiple-personalities/

Input on the DID subculture on TikTok: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/dissociative-identity-disorder-did-tiktok-influencers-multiple-personalities

@theasystem and @systemspouse:

https://www.tiktok.com/@theasystem/video/6987819970646265094

https://www.tiktok.com/@systemspouse/video/6987084259601157382

https://www.tiktok.com/@systemspouse/video/6985581388808473862

One of the stranger subreddits you'll see: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIDCringe/

Science-Based Medicine's very bad and error-riddled coverage of Irreversible Damage:

Novella and Gorski: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-of-transgender-treatment/

Lovell: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/abigail-shriers-irreversible-damage-a-wealth-of-irreversible-misinformation/

Eckert:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/irreversible-damage-to-the-trans-community-a-critical-review-of-abigail-shriers-book-irreversible-damage-part-one/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/irreversible-damage-to-the-trans-community-a-critical-review-of-abigail-shriers-book-irreversible-damage-the-transgender-craze-seducing-our-daughters-part-two/

Jesse's responses:
https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/how-science-based-medicine-botched
https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/science-based-medicines-coverage

Leaked email about Jesse that treats Gorcenski and James as credible sources: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1412511853067051010

Gorcenski: "If you wonder if there's anyone who I dislike more than the Nazis who assaulted me and nearly killed me, there is at least one person and his name is Jesse Singal."
https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eed6bf4-fa8c-4802-80ea-282818a0b26d_952x419.png

Jesse on Gorcenski: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/a-sorta-quick-response-to-the-errors

Some background on Andrea James: http://alicedreger.com/in_fear

Longer but free, and tells the whole story: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170124/

Rebecca Watson Wikipedia page with some information on Elevatorgate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Watson

Her account of what happened:
https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/10/sexism-in-the-skeptic-community-i-spoke-out-then-came-the-rape-threats.html