BONUS EPISODE: Two More New York Times Departures Raise Some Troubling Questions About Disrespect Of Peruvian Shamans


February 11th, 2021

1 hr 4 mins 40 secs

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About this Episode

Jesse and Katie talk about a disturbing bit of listener feedback and the recent departure from the Times, under questionable circumstances, of Andy Mills and Donald McNeil Jr. Are the worst norms of campus culture seeping into major media institutions? To hear the answer, you'll have to listen. (It's 'yes.')

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Show notes/Links:

The Cut on Andy Mills:

His resignation note:

The Times on both resignations:

John McWhorter is skeptical of collapsing the use/mention distinction:

NHJ not great on anonymous sources...:

...or the question of whether the NYT has published "that word" much:

Because it has: